"The Daily Show" took a more serious turn Monday
night when host Jon Stewart introduced his guest for the evening, Health
and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius.
Sebelius, who has been on a media blitz in recent weeks as the health
care exchanges for the Affordable Care Act opened for business on
October 1st, has appeared on multiple networks to promote the new law
and to attempt to temper criticism of its rollout.
As the secretary sat down to begin the segment, Stewart opened a
laptop on his desk. “I’m going to attempt to download every movie ever
made, and you’re going to try to sign up for Obamacare, and we’ll see
which happens first.”
Sebelius admitted the website rollout “started a little rockier than
we’d like,” but said the administration had been working to make
improvements. “It’s better today than it was yesterday, and it will keep
getting better.”
The sign-up websites were offline for part of the weekend as efforts
were made to fix multiple glitches that caused delays for many who
attempted to use the program in the first few days.
When asked how many individuals had signed up for insurance so far,
Sebelius admitted, “I can’t tell you, because I don’t know ... we will
be giving monthly reports.” She added that hundreds of thousands of
accounts had been created, which indicated to the administration that
those consumers “are going to go shopping” for insurance as the next
step.
The segment became more contentious as the Comedy Central host turned
to the subject of the individual mandate, specifically the fact that
while many businesses were given a one-year delay to comply with the
law, individuals were not.
“If I’m an individual that doesn’t want this, it would be hard for me
to look at a big business getting a waiver," Stewart said. "I would
feel like you are favoring big business because they lobbied you ... but
you’re not allowing individuals that same courtesy.”
Sebelius denied that was the case, but danced around answering the question directly, sticking instead to talking points.
After pressing her further on the issue to no avail, a somewhat
exasperated Stewart finally smiled and asked, “Am I a stupid man?”
Later, as he threw to commercial, Stewart said he still was “not sure
why individuals can’t delay” and asked the secretary if he could keep
asking her that same question when they returned.
Later, while addressing the issue of businesses cutting back hours
for employees to avoid having to provide health care under the new
regulations, Sebelius held firm. “Economists, not anecdotal folks, but
economists, say there is absolutely no evidence that part-time work is
going up. In fact, it’s going down,” she said. The secretary also said
that for the first time ever, part-time employees in the United Sates
would now have the option to purchase health insurance under the new
law.
Toward the end, Stewart argued that a market-based strategy toward
health care is a flawed concept in itself and that a single payer system
would have been a more simple approach. But Sebelius jumped in, saying,
“if we could have perhaps figured out a pathway, that may have been a
reasonable solution.”
“So this is jerry-rigged to deal with the crazy people?” Stewart asked.
“I think the president did not want to dismantle the health care that 85% of the country had," Sebelius responded.
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